Why is pim good in fantasy hockey

Penalties are clearly a negative in hockey so why reward them in fantasy hockey? What say you? Follow me on Twitter SteveLaidlaw. January 27, , AM 2. Join Date Mar Posts 5, What I would like to see is a way to differentiate between penalties. Specifically, if there was a way to isolate fighting majors that would be terrific. Fighting majors as a category. Perhaps it doesnt matter since NHL fighting is going down the same road as the dinosaurs.

January 27, , AM 3. Join Date Dec Posts 4, Rep Power 45 Big Daddy. PIM is the worst stat in fantasy hockey and shouldn't be a category. For some reason it is a positive category though when it really should be a negative category. January 27, , AM 4. Join Date Sep Posts 46, I've always stated that I was never a fan of PIMs being a positive stat when it affects teams negatively on the ice.

It seems like an total opposite and backwards stat for those who are trying to make their leagues run as close to the real thing as possible. I get the arguement that it gets more guys on your rosters and makes guys that normally wouldn't have value, valuable, but I still dislike the "positive" affect towards fantasy.

You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses. January 27, , AM 5. There are other ways of doing this, too. I actually like this suggestion. Too many penalties will hurt a team, just like in real life. Implementation may be a bit tricky, though. I was in a pool with this rule once and I quite enjoyed it. You have a designated goon, who counts in all categories goals, assists, and so on , but is the only player on your roster capable of recording PIM. This takes away points for hooking and holding penalties as well as any other minor penalty.

How about counting fighting majors only? My take : I participate in a few leagues. Some with PIM, and some without. I think PIM has a place in leagues, provided you have a number of other statistics being recorded.

In a keeper league I am in, we track 10 categories. We just started using hits, and I quite like it. This season, Nicolas Deslauriers led the league with 14 majors, while no other player had more than seven majors. Last season, no player had more than seven majors, which makes Deslauriers' major penalty total seem like an anomaly. Not all major penalties are assessed for fighting, but as long as fighting is on the decline, the same will happen to total penalty minutes.

Grab onto penalty minute producers who can score. Kane, Brady Tkachuk covered here , and Tom Wilson are must-owns in these leagues. This matters more in leagues in leagues where you compete directly with other teams in this category, such as weekly head-to-head leagues that award wins for each category, or multicategory roto leagues which rank teams in each category over the season. As for pure points leagues that assign a value for each category, this doesn't matter as much as long as the points come from somewhere.

A team could pile up a ton of goals and assists each week but not many penalty minutes and still come out on top. In that case, penalty minutes are basically a throwaway category, especially if they don't add much to the bottom line. Of the PIM crowd or at least within reach of PIM , Kane is probably the player with the highest value at the moment, given his ability to also score goals at least 20 in each of the last five seasons and take shots at least over each of the last five seasons.

However, I could see the younger Tkachuk eclipsing him in fantasy value over the next season or two. As I mentioned last week, the sky's the limit for Tkachuk in bangers leagues. Today's penalty minute leaders could just as well be scorers as not. Of the top 10 PIM producers in , three were on pace to record 40 points, with another Kadri on pace to reach that mark. In , none of the top eight PIM producers recorded more than 24 points.

What a monster year that would have been for him in bangers leagues. Since there isn't a ton happening in the hockey world right now, feel free to leave any questions or comments, and I may discuss them in a future Ramblings. They debate the merits and flaws of the Yotes defensemen, before wrapping up with hot and cold streaks. I thought and still do think it is a ridiculous request for all the same reasons you mentioned above.

There are face-off specialists that exist. This would at least give meaning to a stat category. Blocked shots would also be a good metric for hockey.

There are some very good defence men that make a living in the league doing this. Its a hugely underrated stat. How does that make any sense? But i do see how its an easy metric for sites to use. I just dont like it……. Maybe in football they should allow us to take an Offensive Lineman.

Holding calls and false starts hurt your team, a fight where both players simply get 5 minute majors does not. You as a Canadian should realize that ice hockey is largely built around physicality.

If all you want from pucks is dangling, sniping, and puck handling then go watch inline! Ice hockey was built on being physical which leads to penalties and fights so its just guys doing their jobs.

Points for faceoffs, hits, blocked shots? Fantasy hockey from the daily standpoint is fine the way it is. WOW are you kidding me? Penalties of any kind other than the one instance you brought up are all hurtful to a team. And in your example what happens when there is an extra 2 min to one player for being an instigator? Is that a good thing?? Do you deserve to get an extra point for your fantasy team?? Being physical hitting and being a goon are two separate things.

There is no argument that you or anyone can make to suggest penalties are a positive. No coach sends out a player to get a 5 min major for high sticking or 2 mins for slashing.